[tomboy-list] Looking at notebook support in Tomboy...

[Matt Price]

just a couple of cents from me...
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 08:16 -0700, Boyd Timothy wrote:
> Sandy,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback!  Inline replies follow...
> 
> On Dec 21, 2007 7:16 AM, Sandy Armstrong <sanfordarmstrong at gmail.com> wrote:

> > * There are some weird situations where you delete all notes in a
> > notebook, and the template note is recreated either instantly or after
> > you restart Tomboy (presumably if all notebook notes are deleted, the
> > notebook should be considered deleted?).
> 
> Not sure what changed, but for some reason, when you delete a note
> that has a tag in it, something is triggering the QueueSave again and
> after it's deleted from disk, it's being saved again.  If you delete
> it a second time (when it doesn't have any tags) it goes away.
> Strange.  It's a bug, so I haven't spent that much time yet ... have
> to get the features in before feature freeze first.  ;)
> 
is there a tagging ui at this point?  i'm not seeing how to tag notes in
the current svn version.  

> > * I feel like the new preferences tab hides away notebook
> > functionality.  With notebooks integrated into the search UI, I find
> > myself wanting to manipulate them directly from there.  I'd like to be
> > able to double-click a notebook in the search UI and have its template
> > come up, or delete the entire notebook right there, or create a new
> > one.  If I could do that, I know that I would never use the new
> > preferences tab.  Potentially access to editing notebook templates
> > could be somehow slipped into the template section of the Editing tab?
> 
> +1!  I think some simple add/remove buttons could be added to the
> Search All Notes dialog.  You could right-click or double-click to
> bring up the template note.  Should be pretty simple to do.  I'll
> remove the Notebooks from the preferences tab.  I just hadn't gotten
> around to adding any controls to the Search All Notes dialog yet.
> This is the risk you take when you show off a feature too early ;).
> 
i would also LOVE to be able to drag n drop notes from the search menu
onto a notebook.  this starts to make "search" more like "search and
organize".  it's a much quicker way to organize notes than the
mouse-intensive "place in notebook" feature which is currently hidden
under the Tools menu.

> > * Although it would clutter up the menu, I find myself wishing there
> > was an additional menu entry that said "Create New Note in 'Work'",
> > where 'Work' is replaced with whatever the "active" notebook is.
> > "Active" might be defined as the last notebook for which a note was
> > created, or it could be defined as the notebook of the currently
> > viewed note?  I don't know, I just feel like it's too complicated to
> > make a bunch of notes in the same notebook rapidly.  This is also
> > something I should be able to do graphically in the search UI (maybe
> > by double-clicking or accessing a right-click menu on the notebook?).
> 
> Good thought.  This is a good candidate for doing once everything else
> is working well.
> 
+1
> > * I think it's interesting that the default option is "No Notebook" as
> > opposed to something like "Default Notebook".  I'm still pondering
> > that.
> 
> I'm on the fence on this one, though I'm leaning towards "No
> Notebook".  Conceptually, these notes are either posted all over the
> edge of my computer screen (this is literally what my father-in-law
> does) or just scattered all over my desk.  :)
> 
could a gconf key be crated which allows a default notebook to be set?
then if you are someone who has a predominant use for tomboy, you could
set it yourself.  i myself would love to have a keystroke that sets the
notebook of a particular note, or that opens up a new note into a
particular notebook.  i know that's not especially gnome-ish.

all in all, after just a little bit of playing with it i am convinced
that it adds substantial functionality.  nice work!  when i started
using tomboy i honestly had no idea that it would more or less replace
e.g. openoffice in my daily workflow.  

thanks,

matt

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Matt Price
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