[tomboy-list] Yank or keep tags for GNOME 2.20 (Tomboy 0.8)?

[Dylan McCall]

I posted somewhere here that I, for one, think that a tagging feature is
completely useless unless looking data up is performed by an AND sort of
query, where selecting more tags narrows the search. Otherwise, it may as
well be a bunch of regular folders listed in one place! (Besides, an OR
query is not the expected behaviour with a tagging system). Thus, that
should definitely be addressed :)
I think that is the only really major problem with the tag searching.

Actually applying tags could be a bit prettier as well, though. Have to
admit I haven't used Tomboy in a while (installed Ubuntu Gutsy on the
machine that hosts my Tomboy notes, somehow killed d-bus, which slaughtered
the Gnome config daemon and somehow also caused it to not load any services
when logging in). Looking at it really quickly right now on the other
machine, I think the tagging UI within the notes themselves is rather
imperfect.
(Random thing: Hovering over tags sometimes causes them to go down to the
next line because of that addition of a Remove stock icon, which creates a
really ugly flickering problem. Bother!)
The applied tags in this view are spaced weirdly. (Or, rather, not
consistently spaced at all!). I think it should be either a vertical list,
or a text box. Check out how the Epiphany web browser does its bookmark
tagging. I think that interface, with the one text box and the box expanding
from it, works really well. (No need for a mashup of buttons for each tag).
Then again, removing tags from that is a bit different. I never erase the
text, but instead uncheck the necessary items in the below combo box, and an
interface that big would not really fit Tomboy... (Maybe the current input
method, with tags appearing as buttons and the one text box, is ideal.
Still, I think those buttons could be spaced more pleasantly).

Bye,
-Dylan McCall

On 7/20/07, Boyd Timothy <btimothy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I've been thinking (and maybe that's not a good thing), that we may
> want to consider not including tasks for Tomboy 0.8.0.  As you may/may
> not know, feature freeze is rapidly approaching (July 30th).  String
> freeze is four weeks later, followed soon with hard freeze.
>
> My concern is that the UI for tags, especially in the search all notes
> window, is really not that good and pretty clunky.  I'd hate to see a
> released version of Tomboy look like that.  Anyone else feel the same
> way?  I am going to be on vacation next week (won't even haver
> Internet access...joyful) and a big chunk of August as well, so I
> don't feel like I will have the time to tidy up the tags properly.
>
> Anyone else up for hacking together a better UI in a super fast timeframe?
>
> Some options I guess we have:
>
> #1: Leave it as is, yuck
> #2: A superstar comes in and makes the tagging UI rock (remember we're
> in string and ui change announce period now)
> #3: I pull some late nights in August sometime and come up with something
> #4: We modify tags to be a Tomboy Addin that's disabled by default and
> add it into the "Experimental" category
> #5: We comment-out tags entirely for 0.8 and have them be a big strong
> feature of 0.10
>
> Ideas, suggestions, volunteers?
>
> Cheers!
>
> -Boyd
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