[tomboy-list] Tomboy on Mac

[Jared Jennings]

Rob,
We had talked about it and had even started a doc on it. At the time though
the focus wasn't as ambitious and wouldn't accomplish what is required
here. As you say Data and presentation are very tight and I don't know the
history on that either.

I'm also wondering how many of the available add-ins are needed if we were
using a Cocoa implementation. It provides all the formatting that we have
today in add-ins.

Yes, Synchronization is a must for the Mac implementation. Otherwise it is
useless.

The D-BUS API idea doesn't sound bad, but I have zero experience with it;
which means I may not be qualified to speak about it.

At the very minimum I was thinking that it would be nice to have a Mac
install that could Sync. It may not have all the features of the
current-day code base, but at least we would have something. I don't want
to sound shortsighted by such a statement, but today we have nothing (if on
Lion).

-Jared


On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Robert Nordan <rpvn at robpvn.net> wrote:

>  Having all the core Tomboy functionality as a library and reusing it on
> multiple platforms would be great, but the rewrite sounds like a pretty
> herculean effort...  Didn't you guys (Greg specifically) look at
> refactoring earlier? I know from my poking around in Tomboy that the
> coupling between data and presentation is pretty tight, with various gtk
> components handling both sides at the same time. And yes, I'd say that most
> of the available add-ins would stop working with such a dramatic rewrite.
>
> Now, I suppose the first step is actually defining what core functionality
> is, (notes, storage, sync?) and what is presentation layer? (Most things in
> the Search All Notes window?) Does the D-BUS API present a usable model for
> this separation, can it maybe even be used to make a MonoMac application
> that starts a hidden Tomboy instance and communicates over D-BUS? This
> sounds like material for some wiki/IRC work! :P
>
> All in all, great initiative but some serious challenges to be overcome
> along the way is my opinon.
>
> /Robert N
>
>
> On 29.02.2012 16:33, Jared Jennings wrote:
>
> Completely agree and from a developers point of view this isn't a small
> task. I think there could be some really nice payoffs for this, but I don't
> want to loose any of the existing work. There are a lot of add-ins already
> in place and supported; these wouldn't migrate over to Mac or IOS or such.
> That would be another discussion how to best handle that.
>
> -Jared
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Olivier Bilodeau <
> olivier at bottomlesspit.org> wrote:
>
>> Great plan! Can't wait to see progress on this.
>>
>> Be careful about regressions. Starting from scratch tends to reintroduce
>> problems.
>> --
>> Olivier Bilodeau <olivier at bottomlesspit.org>
>> On my mobile phone, please excuse my brevity.
>>  On Feb 28, 2012 6:20 PM, "Jared Jennings" <jaredljennings at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  I'm probably going to stir a pot or later realize that I am talking
>>> crazy, but that's what I do :)
>>>
>>>  While trying to get Tomboy to run on Lion I realized that there's no
>>> easy way to use MonoMac. It crosses between GTK and Cocoa. I've already
>>> been thinking about writing Tomboy for IOS and Android using the Mono
>>> libraries. So with that in mind I am proposing the following.
>>>
>>>  We pull the current Tomboy core code into a library.
>>> We build a new Tomboy project for Mac, based on MonoMac.
>>> The existing Tomboy code will remain GTK and slowly transition to
>>> utilizing the newer Tomboy library.
>>>
>>>  I'm willing to care most of this effort, although of course would
>>> welcome ALL the contribution possible. I will host all of the work on
>>> public repo's so anyone can play at any time.
>>>
>>>  I think this will enhance the user experience for Tomboy, especially
>>> on Mac.
>>> Future cross-platform support could become more easy.
>>> Also it would help push us to breaking code from GUI as we had discussed
>>> in the past.
>>>
>>>  Thoughts welcome.
>>>
>>> -Jared
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